Now we all know why Dave Williams has not taken his signs down. Republican candidate Tim Crawford is putting his signs over Dave’s.
I noticed this also. They are just removing the Dave Williams sign and mounting the Tim Crawford signs to the existing framework. Tim Crawford is a charter member of the the Ol’ Commanders Club from the Davis administration. It’s pretty obvious that group just can’t seem to move on with retirement and getting even is the primary motive behind their attempts to unseat the current Sheriff.
One thing that I did make note of was the obvious display of the Marine Corps Emblem on Tim Crawfords campaign signs. It gave me the impression that he was either currently serving or, retired from that branch of service. I have been informed that he is neither. It also portrays that he is somehow endorsed by that branch of service, and he is not. I did a bit of research and found that it is a violation of Federal Law to display that emblem without permission from the Marine Corps. When permission is granted this disclaimer must be placed on the item displaying the seal- “Neither the United States Marine Corps nor any other component of the Department of Defense has approved, endorsed, or authorized this product (or promotion, or service, or activity)” as an integral part of the use of imitation. A “prominent display” is one located on the same page as the first use of the insignia, prominent in that use, and printed in letters at least one half the size and density of the insignia.
Here is the statute from the code of Federal regulations: http://law.justia.com/us/cfr/title32/32-5.1.1.7.33.0.37.6.html
If Tim Crawford is asking for the voters to elect him to the Chief law enforcement position in Charles County, he should not be breaking laws during his campaign. It shows very poor taste and bad judgement. It took me less than 30 seconds on line to find this information. He could have done the same.
[ Edited: 28 September 2010 08:29 PM by Ten Bears]
Unless I am mistaken, Virginia Benedict was referring specifically and exclusively to Al Smith.
That may be, but I suspect his switch was for the same reason as Williams. Neither of which had changed their political thoughts. ( it only took a thirty second converstaion with Al Smith to realize that) Except for one. To win in Charles County you need to be a democrat.
Now don’t get me wrong. I really like Eric Vrem. I have noticed Eric Vrem signs going up on the same sign frames that once had Al Smith signs. You know, the same Al Smith that switched to the democratic party in an attempt to mislead as to his political values. Like I said, I like Vrem and think he would be a great commissioner. That is not the point. Al Smith did not remain loyal to the democratic party. The second he lost, he reverted his loyalty back to the republican party. I admire Vrem and Campbell for staying true to their beliefs and not using a party affiliation to present themselves as something they are not. It is just wrong. Some would think of it as nothing more than a lie. Looks like Virginia was right about Al Smith.
obvious display of the Marine Corps Emblem on Tim Crawfords campaign signs. It gave me the impression that he was either currently serving or, retired from that branch of service. I have been informed that he is neither.
Born and raised in Prince George’s County, Crawford joined the U.S. Marine Corps in 1980 as a steppingstone for becoming a police officer. He said the pull toward a career in law enforcement runs in his family.
“It’s something that’s in your blood. You have to have the desire to want to help people,” Crawford said.
After Crawford’s stint in the military,
From what Crawford’s FB bio page says he served in the Marines. Of course, anyone can say anything, but that would be pretty darn stupid to claim being a Marine if you weren’t.
Seahorse,
I have no doubt that he served a hitch in the Corps. What I said was, that displaying the seal on his campaign signs gives the reader the impression that he is currently serving (active duty or reserves) or retired. He is not!
[ Edited: 28 September 2010 10:12 PM by Ten Bears]
Once a Marine, always a Marine. According to many, there’s no such thing as an ex-Marine. If he ever served in the Marine Corps, he would be entitled to use their emblem. And since politicians tent to tout their military service , it’s kind of expected. You can go after him on a lot of things, but unless you can show that he never served in the Corps, honorable military service would be best left alone.
If he ever served in the Marine Corps, he would be entitled to use their emblem.
FALSE
The statute from the Federal code I posted absolutely contradicts this Wayne.
Also, I am not going after him for his service to our country. I congratulate him for his bravery and sacrifices. I am posting my opinion that his campaign sign implies information that is not factual. He does not have any type of endorsement from the United States Marines and he is not currently serving or retired from that branch of service. Displaying that seal on signs while running for political office clearly implies that.
[ Edited: 28 September 2010 10:31 PM by Ten Bears]
Once a Marine, always a Marine. According to many, there’s no such thing as an ex-Marine. If he ever served in the Marine Corps, he would be entitled to use their emblem. And since politicians tent to tout their military service , it’s kind of expected. You can go after him on a lot of things, but unless you can show that he never served in the Corps, honorable military service would be best left alone.
I also see a stark difference from touting one’s honorable service in the military and using that service’s official seal in violation of U.S. Code.
32 C.F.R. § 765.14 (c)(1) No unofficial use or imitation of the Marine Corps seal. Reproduction and use of the Marine Corps seal, as designated in Executive Order No. 10538 of June 22, 1954, is restricted to materials emanating from Headquarters Marine Corps. Except for manufacture of official letterhead stationery and related items of official Marine Corps use, reproduction and use of the Marine Corps seal is prohibited.
It doesn’t say ‘unless you served in the Marine Corps, its okay…’
That said, I personally don’t see it as a big deal. There are plenty of candidates who’ve used the seal of the branch of the military or the government agency they’ve served in—not as an endorsement, but as an easy-to-recognize symbol as part of their resume or bibliography. There are even more, retired or honorably-separated individuals who use the official seals as decals on their cars, on hats, on t-shirts, on jackets, etc. I’m sure none of those are included in the exemptions listed the the U.S. Code, yet no one is complaining about those.
There are plenty of things to point out about Tim Crawford, but his use of the USMC seal or his service in the Marine Corps isn’t one of them.
Quack, you and I aren’t far off in our opinion. I understand that some folks may see this issue as a little deal. If Mr. Crawford was running for some other office, I probably wouldn’t have given that seal another thought. But as a candidate for Sheriff, I would expect him to obay all laws and not just ignore the small ones because violating them are to his benefit. That is the primary reason I brought it up. The Sheriff is held to a higher standard (in my opinion) than other politically elected offices.
I tend to tolerate things like this from regular politicians because it almost seems like business as usual. But, I personally don’t look the other way or, except it in the Sheriff’s (or States Attorneys) Offices.
Once a Marine, always a Marine. According to many, there’s no such thing as an ex-Marine. If he ever served in the Marine Corps, he would be entitled to use their emblem. And since politicians tent to tout their military service , it’s kind of expected. You can go after him on a lot of things, but unless you can show that he never served in the Corps, honorable military service would be best left alone.
I also see a stark difference from touting one’s honorable service in the military and using that service’s official seal in violation of U.S. Code.
32 C.F.R. § 765.14 (c)(1) No unofficial use or imitation of the Marine Corps seal. Reproduction and use of the Marine Corps seal, as designated in Executive Order No. 10538 of June 22, 1954, is restricted to materials emanating from Headquarters Marine Corps. Except for manufacture of official letterhead stationery and related items of official Marine Corps use, reproduction and use of the Marine Corps seal is prohibited.
It doesn’t say ‘unless you served in the Marine Corps, its okay…’
That said, I personally don’t see it as a big deal. There are plenty of candidates who’ve used the seal of the branch of the military or the government agency they’ve served in—not as an endorsement, but as an easy-to-recognize symbol as part of their resume or bibliography. There are even more, retired or honorably-separated individuals who use the official seals as decals on their cars, on hats, on t-shirts, on jackets, etc. I’m sure none of those are included in the exemptions listed the the U.S. Code, yet no one is complaining about those.
There are plenty of things to point out about Tim Crawford, but his use of the USMC seal or his service in the Marine Corps isn’t one of them.
I really could care less about this, but there is a difference in displaying an emblem and using the emblem as part of a political campaign. Some people may think the Marines are endorsing his political activity. As I read the law, he does violate the law without question. It is clear the intent of this law is not to keep members of the military from displaying the emblem for pride. It is to prohibit the use for commercial or personal gain.
Unless I am mistaken, Virginia Benedict was referring specifically and exclusively to Al Smith.
That may be, but I suspect his switch was for the same reason as Williams. Neither of which had changed their political thoughts. ( it only took a thirty second converstaion with Al Smith to realize that) Except for one. To win in Charles County you need to be a democrat.
Now don’t get me wrong. I really like Eric Vrem. I have noticed Eric Vrem signs going up on the same sign frames that once had Al Smith signs. You know, the same Al Smith that switched to the democratic party in an attempt to mislead as to his political values. Like I said, I like Vrem and think he would be a great commissioner. That is not the point. Al Smith did not remain loyal to the democratic party. The second he lost, he reverted his loyalty back to the republican party. I admire Vrem and Campbell for staying true to their beliefs and not using a party affiliation to present themselves as something they are not. It is just wrong. Some would think of it as nothing more than a lie. Looks like Virginia was right about Al Smith.
Actually, Al Smith did not revert his loyalty back to the Republican Party. I talked to AL Smith after the election and he thanked me for not not attacking him for switching parties. We talked about how this election is not an issue of what party you belong too but an issue about what is truly best for the county and its residents. He also told me that the people that supported him are not happy at all with the incumbant commissioners and he would like to assist me in defeating the last incumbant. He offered me the use on his frames and locations with the consent of the owner. Any location that I have used one his frames, it is because my campaign has appraoched the owner and asked for its use. I have also recieved frames and locations from quite a few other candidates ( all of which are Democrats) to use for the general. I would not classify this at all as an issue of him trying to betray a party but really trying to do what is best for the county. On a personal level, I would much rather have a public official that places it residents before a party.
[ Edited: 29 September 2010 06:10 AM by Eric Vrem]
Unless I am mistaken, Virginia Benedict was referring specifically and exclusively to Al Smith.
That may be, but I suspect his switch was for the same reason as Williams. Neither of which had changed their political thoughts. ( it only took a thirty second converstaion with Al Smith to realize that) Except for one. To win in Charles County you need to be a democrat.
Now don’t get me wrong. I really like Eric Vrem. I have noticed Eric Vrem signs going up on the same sign frames that once had Al Smith signs. You know, the same Al Smith that switched to the democratic party in an attempt to mislead as to his political values. Like I said, I like Vrem and think he would be a great commissioner. That is not the point. Al Smith did not remain loyal to the democratic party. The second he lost, he reverted his loyalty back to the republican party. I admire Vrem and Campbell for staying true to their beliefs and not using a party affiliation to present themselves as something they are not. It is just wrong. Some would think of it as nothing more than a lie. Looks like Virginia was right about Al Smith.
Actually, Al Smith did not revert his loyalty back to the Republican Party. I talked to AL Smith after the election and he thanked me for not not attacking him for switching parties. We talked about how this election is not an issue of what party you belong too but an issue about what is truly best for the county and its residents. He also told me that the people that supported him are not happy at all with the incumbant commissioners and he would like to assist me in defeating the last incumbant. He offered me the use on his frames and locations with the consent of the owner. Any location that I have used one his frames, it is because my campaign has appraoched the owner and asked for its use. I have also recieved frames and locations from quite a few other candidates ( all of which are Democrats) to use for the general. I would not classify this at all as an issue of him trying to betray a party but really trying to do what is best for the county. On a personal level, I would much rather have a public official that places it residents before a party.
Eric, I agree with you. That is why Al should have run as a republican. I like Al. Al is a republican inside and out. He should have stayed true to his beliefs. Changing parties was a mistake and one that I would assume he regrets. You have to be true to yourself to be a true public servant that is respected by the people.
[ Edited: 29 September 2010 09:14 PM by Bill Jones]
Party affiliations are the fortress of special interests, democrat, republican or whatever. As I have written repeatedly, they represent the avarciousness of the ruling elite (Murkowski, Connelly, Hatch, Hoyer, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Castle, etc.) who believe the rest of us are just dumb animals incapable of independent, sentient thought or of leading productive lives without their benevolent guiding wisdom. Its all about control, and unfortunately a significant portion of the herd has bought into the fantasy.
It is my most ardent hope that unbranded members of the herd stampede this November and run these moonbats out of office, at all levels of government. I know this is probably uber naive, but what this country desperately needs are men and women who ethically and honorably “represent” the interest of the represented. They should only be allowed to serve based on their adherence to the principle that we as a people do not apologize to anyone or any country for our national identity, that this is a nation of laws, equally applied, and that any given decision should be measured solely on its merits as they relate to an actual positive impact on our “collective wellbeing”, versus how our representative might personnally or professional benefit from that decision or whose favor they can curry. The political party system and its adherents have us in a crossfire folks. They use our fears, needs, and biases as cattle prods to misdirect our attention from their political slights of hand, so we blame our each other for our respective lot in life versus the ruling elitists we have allowed to become ensconced across our country. They have not, do not and will not ever represent us with honor or distinction, and they most assuredly do not hold our nations best interest at heart. They are in this for themselves and no one else.
Party affiliations are the fortress of special interests, democrat, republican or whatever. As I have written repeatedly, they represent the avarciousness of the ruling elite (Murkowski, Connelly, Hatch, Hoyer, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Castle, etc.) who believe the rest of us are just dumb animals incapable of independent, sentient thought or of leading productive lives without their benevolent guiding wisdom. Its all about control, and unfortunately a significant portion of the herd has bought into the fantasy.
It is my most ardent hope that unbranded members of the herd stampede this November and run these moonbats out of office, at all levels of government. I know this is probably uber naive, but what this country desperately needs are men and women who ethically and honorably “represent” the interest of the represented. They should only be allowed to serve based on their adherence to the principle that we as a people do not apologize to anyone or any country for our national identity, that this is a nation of laws, equally applied, and that any given decision should be measured solely on its merits as they relate to an actual positive impact on our “collective wellbeing”, versus how our representative might personnally or professional benefit from that decision or whose favor they can curry. The political party system and its adherents have us in a crossfire folks. They use our fears, needs, and biases as cattle prods to misdirect our attention from their political slights of hand, so we blame our each other for our respective lot in life versus the ruling elitists we have allowed to become ensconced across our country. They have not, do not and will not ever represent us with honor or distinction, and they most assuredly do not hold our nations best interest at heart. They are in this for themselves and no one else.
All of what you say may be true, but it really doesn’t matter. That is the way it is and has always been. People have been saying what you have said for decades and nothing has changed. You may as well adapt to the reality of life and learn to make it work for you.
I see Bill Jones and the rest of the Rex Coffey machine have fired up the propaganda tactics to smear Crawford. No surprise really, everyone that has run for Sheriff in this county is someone who just cant stand to retire and move on, Coffey is no different. They use the citizens of Charles County to settle old grudges with each other. Sad really when you finally realize what is going on. They are no different than Hoyer and the others with over sized egos.
Wrong Munch- There is no Rex Coffey machine and I have no idea who Bill Jones is. I am Rex’s wife and our campaign committee consists of two people, me and Rex.There have been no propaganda tactics from either one of us. If a citizen has something to say on a public forum that is their right. We do not know who these people are and they do not discuss their opinions with us. Rex does not post on here nor does he even read it. I do however read it so I can set people straight when lies and rumors pop up.Anybody else have something they want the truth on?
I see Bill Jones and the rest of the Rex Coffey machine have fired up the propaganda tactics to smear Crawford. No surprise really, everyone that has run for Sheriff in this county is someone who just cant stand to retire and move on, Coffey is no different. They use the citizens of Charles County to settle old grudges with each other. Sad really when you finally realize what is going on. They are no different than Hoyer and the others with over sized egos.
I presume based on your comment that “everyone that has run for Sheriff in this county is someone who just cant [sic] stand to retire” includes Tim Crawford. Knowing that Crawford is lumped in with everyone else I feel safe making my decision based on personal experience and not on philosophical or professional differences. Here is my personal experience: Sheriff Rex Coffey has met with me twice in the last four years to discuss law enforcement issues within my community. My community consists of 126 townhouse units. Even if there are four people on average living in each unit, we’re talking about a maximum of about 500 residents in a county of well over 100,000. He didn’t meet with me because the handful of votes from our small community might matter to him in some future election but because the 500 citizens within my community mattered to him. Both meetings took place after hours, on my time, and not on his. At least one (and perhaps both) were at the request of our community officer. That Coffey showed up at all, let alone twice, to discuss issues pertinent to an obscure and insignificantly small townhouse community, and on the request of one of his lowest ranking officers, speaks volumes to his commitment to the wellbeing of the entire community. There was no possible political gain in his actions. There were no reporters and no photo-ops. As far as I know, no one outside the meeting ever knew it happened. It’s obvious to me Sheriff Coffey chose to attend that meeting for only one reason: because he gave a damn about our small, insignificant community.
I am not a member of any machine. Quite the opposite, actually. And I don’t know anyone in law enforcement well enough to hold a grudge, let alone be interested in settling old ones. What I do know is that our current sheriff took enough of an interest in a statistically irrelevant group of citizens to meet on his own personal time with a few of them and address issues they felt were important.
I see Bill Jones and the rest of the Rex Coffey machine have fired up the propaganda tactics to smear Crawford. No surprise really, everyone that has run for Sheriff in this county is someone who just cant stand to retire and move on, Coffey is no different. They use the citizens of Charles County to settle old grudges with each other. Sad really when you finally realize what is going on. They are no different than Hoyer and the others with over sized egos.
Here is the problem as I see it about your comments. Propaganda is defined as misleading publicity: deceptive or distorted information that is systematically spread. Nothing that anyone has said here about Tim Crawford is deceptive or distorted.
Second, I’m not a part of any machine. I do support Rex Coffey and I have never kept that a secret. He has no clue who I am here on Delusional Duck. No one needs to battle for Rex Coffey. He is quite capable of taking care of himself.
Third, Rex Coffey retired from CCSO to actually run for Sheriff. So his intent when he retired was not to move on but to be the Sheriff. Coffey is not the one who holds grudges. The Fred Davis team is the group that is motivated by hatred and nothing else.
Final Thought, No one needs to make up anything about Tim Crawford to “smear” him. He does enough on his own for people to see what he is all about.
Here is the problem as I see it about your comments. Propaganda is defined as misleading publicity: deceptive or distorted information that is systematically spread. Nothing that anyone has said here about Tim Crawford is deceptive or distorted.
I agree with Bill on this one.
I guess Munch’s post was directed at me as I am the one who posted my observations and opinion about Crawfords signs. Well, the law is clear on the subject and, his signs violate the Federal Code. So, I don’t see anything deceptive or distorted in that. It is what it is!
Never thought of myself as some kind of “political machine”, just an individual voter who pays attention to details and, doesn’t favor politicians who speak with a double tongue.
Wrong Munch- There is no Rex Coffey machine and I have no idea who Bill Jones is. I am Rex’s wife and our campaign committee consists of two people, me and Rex.There have been no propaganda tactics from either one of us. If a citizen has something to say on a public forum that is their right. We do not know who these people are and they do not discuss their opinions with us. Rex does not post on here nor does he even read it. I do however read it so I can set people straight when lies and rumors pop up.Anybody else have something they want the truth on?
How unprofessional and weird that Rex Coffeys wife is posting on here. Big mistake.
Wrong Munch- There is no Rex Coffey machine and I have no idea who Bill Jones is. I am Rex’s wife and our campaign committee consists of two people, me and Rex.There have been no propaganda tactics from either one of us. If a citizen has something to say on a public forum that is their right. We do not know who these people are and they do not discuss their opinions with us. Rex does not post on here nor does he even read it. I do however read it so I can set people straight when lies and rumors pop up.Anybody else have something they want the truth on?
How unprofessional and weird that Rex Coffeys wife is posting on here. Big mistake.
I don’t find it unprofessional or weird. Should Mrs. Coffey give up her rights to free speech or to participate in the electoral process simply because she’s the wife of a political candidate and a public figure? I don’t think so. Has she claimed to be something she isn’t? Has she attempted to conceal her true identity in an attempt to discredit others? No, on both counts. She, using her own name has come on to this (and other) sites to put rumors and attacks against her husband to rest. Most of those rumors and attacks came from anonymous sources—much like “janedoe” here. You can review the past several years of commentary and discussion on my feelings on anonymity on this blog and see that I vehemently support anonymity in most circumstances, but do see the irony supporting the practice and calling on people who use it.
Cindy, not some pseudonym, is out here setting the record straight. It would have been very easy for her to have created a “jane doe” username and post nearly the same information that she has, and no one would have known the difference. She chose to use her name. I think that speaks volumes to her character. I definitely don’t find it be a ‘big mistake.’
