It looks like Dave Williams is calling for Town Hall type debates with the
other candidates for Sheriff. I think that’s a great idea. Who do you think
will be trying to ‘duck’ the debates?
Fed_Up_Fred is that you Davis? If so, how about clearing up this accident ‘thing’
with Crawford and produce the accident report. You said to the St. Mary’s Today
news paper at the time that it appeared as though alcohol was involved and that
you would advise further after tests. We’re trying to make an informed decision
as to who should be the next Sheriff so we would appreciate it if you keep your word
that you made to the St. Mary’s Today and produce the results. You’re not hiding anything
are you Fred? Produce the results so that this ‘controversy’ can be cleared up. And
don’t try to come in here and say that there are no blood alcohol tests, because we all
know that the tests are ‘routine’. If the tests show that Crawford had no alcohol
in his system at the time of the accident, that’s great for him, however if it shows
other wise then Crawford will just have to ‘take-the-hit’ and move forward, but
it’s time to resolve this, albeit years late.
Now stop ‘skulking’ around and produce the report and results Fred!
I don’t know who I’m voting for yet, all I know is this, it won’t be Coffey.
I like the idea about “Town Hall” type meetings, hope they happen, it will
help a lot of us make an informed choice.
I voted for Coffee last time , but after seeing some of his ‘top’ appointments, there
is absolutely, positively no way I can support him this time around. I understand
wanting to look out for old friends, but some of his appointments are just beyond
defending. I’m fairly set on Dave Williams for Sheriff. I also like Crawford, but
that old accident is like a dark cloud hovering over him. He needs to clear that up.
Maybe it will be resolved in the debates.
What I would say to Coffee about some of his ‘top’ appointments is that, “you can put
lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig”. No pun intended.
Truth Teller. You lie! Can you back this up with some documentation?
Where exactly did I lie?
If you are referring to the part where Sheriff Davis confirmed that alcohol was present in the car that Crawford wrecked and promised to release the toxicology reports to the media and then didn’t, how is that me lying? Wouldn’t that be Fred Davis lying?
I doubt that this point Davis is running, so he most likely not going to give any results. Last time I looked empty beer cans in the car are simply beer cans, As you said “alcohol was present in the car” doesnt the alcohol have to be in the driver? I toss empty coffee cups into the back area of my car until I throw them out.I doubt that the EMT’s who saw the cans would be able to say when they were tossed there or who tossed them there. If I drink one beer a day and after a month put out the blue bin to recycle them all, the truck driver would see a lot of empties. Man, What a night he had, 30 empty beer cars!!!
I doubt that this point Davis is running, so he most likely not going to give any results. Last time I looked empty beer cans in the car are simply beer cans, As you said “alcohol was present in the car” doesnt the alcohol have to be in the driver? I toss empty coffee cups into the back area of my car until I throw them out.I doubt that the EMT’s who saw the cans would be able to say when they were tossed there or who tossed them there. If I drink one beer a day and after a month put out the blue bin to recycle them all, the truck driver would see a lot of empties. Man, What a night he had, 30 empty beer cars!!!
Makes sense, except for those pesky, federally required, open container laws. Any open alcoholic beverage container—be it full, partially filled, or completely empty—is a violation of open container laws.
There is no prohibition on your drinking coffee and littering your car with empty coffee cups.
I doubt that this point Davis is running, so he most likely not going to give any results. Last time I looked empty beer cans in the car are simply beer cans, As you said “alcohol was present in the car” doesnt the alcohol have to be in the driver? I toss empty coffee cups into the back area of my car until I throw them out.I doubt that the EMT’s who saw the cans would be able to say when they were tossed there or who tossed them there. If I drink one beer a day and after a month put out the blue bin to recycle them all, the truck driver would see a lot of empties. Man, What a night he had, 30 empty beer cars!!!
Makes sense, except for those pesky, federally required, open container laws. Any open alcoholic beverage container—be it full, partially filled, or completely empty—is a violation of open container laws.
There is no prohibition on your drinking coffee and littering your car with empty coffee cups.
As much as I like Crawford, this is very troubling for him. Best case senario is that
there is police accident report which indicates that were open alcohol containers in
Crawfords car at the time of the accident. That is problematic for him even without the
blood alcohol test results. The only question now is, did Davis indicate this in the
accident report? I don’t know how he could have ommitted it after saying as much to the
St. Mary’s Today news paper. Was there a strong odor of alcohol in Crawfords car? Was
that noted in the accident report? If not, why not? Everything hinges one the accident report. It’s fairly cut and dried really.
This drunk driving is not the only issue with Crawford - he also was part of a large failed business venture that proves his inability to be fiscally responsible - NO ONE needs some report to prove that! Bottom Line - Crawford is not a viable candidate for any elected position.
Crawford had a partner in that business. Maybe it was the partner’s fault. We don’t have all the facts here. However, knowing both of these partners, it was like throwing water on a grease fire.
Then I guess we will have to have Crawford produce those records. The testimony of the Rescue Squad workers who saved his life will tell you just how strong the odor of alcohol was and the fact that the accident was in the early morning hours after a Redskins game where there were many many witnesses that are aware of the amount of alcohol that Crawford consumed that day will be strong evidence of Crawford’s level of alcohol - The records are still out there and my strong suspicion is that Crawford will never let anyone see them - he knows he was drunk and he will never be man enough to admit his mistake.
Why are sure that the blood results will never be produced? That is a very bold statement.
And no I do not have it in for Crawford - just people that are not honest about their mistakes.
Zip It? What is that suppose to be ? If you don’t want to hear the opinions of others you are in the wrong place! MADD will not adhere to your request to “zip it” I can assure you.
Crawford still has my vote Manny, ergo your vote is cancelled.
I can tell you why you will never see those records..A: The statute of limitations have run out for possible traffic charges (DWI). B: HIPPA Laws do not allow the release of medical records without a subpoena (see A above). The only way you will see those records my friends, is if Crawford himself releases them.
Has anyone checked out his facebook account lately? “Tim Crawford for Sheriff”. He is crying about being told to remove a picture of him in uniform on that site by “work”. Apparently it is a violation of departmental policy for him to use the photgraph in this manner. I did a little research and found out that this is not the first time he has violated this policy. He got caught during the last election threatening fellow officers who did not support his boy Davis. He also make it sound like this is a new policy. I did some more snooping and found that this policy has been in effect as far back as 1986. No one could confirm if the policy existed before then. He also accuses someone else of selling Rex Coffey tickets on duty. Well that is the right forum to announce this. If someone else is violating the policy and he knew about it why didn’t he do the right thing that a Commander should do and report it to Internal Affairs? This is “Typical Tim”. The rules don’t apply to him. They never have and never will. And he wants to be Sheriff????? If you want to use your picture then retire and you don’t have to follow the rules which you took an oath to GOD to adhere to. It is the same type of dedication we can expect of him with the oath of office as Sheriff? Tim is a childish whining brat and always has been. He needs to grow up and realize it is pretty hot in the political kitchen.
Has anyone checked out his facebook account lately? “Tim Crawford for Sheriff”. He is crying about being told to remove a picture of him in uniform on that site by “work”. Apparently it is a violation of departmental policy for him to use the photgraph in this manner. I did a little research and found out that this is not the first time he has violated this policy. He got caught during the last election threatening fellow officers who did not support his boy Davis. He also make it sound like this is a new policy. I did some more snooping and found that this policy has been in effect as far back as 1986. No one could confirm if the policy existed before then. He also accuses someone else of selling Rex Coffey tickets on duty. Well that is the right forum to announce this. If someone else is violating the policy and he knew about it why didn’t he do the right thing that a Commander should do and report it to Internal Affairs? This is “Typical Tim”. The rules don’t apply to him. They never have and never will. And he wants to be Sheriff????? If you want to use your picture then retire and you don’t have to follow the rules which you took an oath to GOD to adhere to. It is the same type of dedication we can expect of him with the oath of office as Sheriff? Tim is a childish whining brat and always has been. He needs to grow up and realize it is pretty hot in the political kitchen.
First off,
if you want to be taken seriously, how about a little structure in your post? My first impression of this big block of text is “the rantings of a pissed off little toddler”, not to mention, after reading this I have figured out you have no idea how to transition between topics. I really hope you are not in any type of government job, cause this just shows how horrible your admin work would be. But I will digress.
Okay, you say “This is not the first time he’s violated this policy”, and then go ranting about him allegedly threatening other officers… Want to tell us when he violated this before, and maybe offer some evidence of it?
I’m not even going to bring up the irony of you calling Lt Crawford a “whining childish brat”, but I think you need to put a little bit more of your GED into use and think harder about this.
1. Lt Crawford is in the politics game.
2. He is complaining about a policy he dislikes, that is enforced by the office he is running for.
3. You act like you have never seen someone who is running for a political office complain about the current policies of the office! You can go back to every election since the rise of the media, and I am positive you will find evidence of those running for office complaining and attacking the policies of the incumbent.
If you wish to offer more evidence about your allegations, please do so in a more professional writing style.
Thanks for your thoughts. This is a blog, not a English Class or a formal address. Blogs are for throwing out your thoughts and if they are not in an order that is acceptable to you, so sorry. You are right, Crawford has entered the political kitchen. He can complain all he wants about policies, but just because he is running for Sheriff does not mean he can violate policies. I understand that you are very close to Crawford and feel you need to defend him. That is what family is for. But, if you don’t like what people are saying about Crawford, you may want to stay off of blogs and whatever you do, don’t talk to officers at CCSO. Most don’t have much good to say about him. Thin skin is not good to have when you defend someone running for public office. It is certain to get a lot worse before the end. I also found out after my last post that Crawford violated another policy by addressing a personnel matter in public when he accused someone else of violating policy. Crawford is a Lieutent and is held to certain standards which he apparently has difficulty doing. “Typical Tim”, doesn’t follow the rules.
I really don’t need your permission to post anything and I certainly don’t need your approval on my writing style. If you don’t like what I write, don’t read it.
Thanks for your thoughts. This is a blog, not a English Class or a formal address. Blogs are for throwing out your thoughts and if they are not in an order that is acceptable to you, so sorry. You are right, Crawford has entered the political kitchen. He can complain all he wants about policies, but just because he is running for Sheriff does not mean he can violate policies. I understand that you are very close to Crawford and feel you need to defend him. That is what family is for. But, if you don’t like what people are saying about Crawford, you may want to stay off of blogs and whatever you do, don’t talk to officers at CCSO. Most don’t have much good to say about him. Thin skin is not good to have when you defend someone running for public office. It is certain to get a lot worse before the end. I also found out after my last post that Crawford violated another policy by addressing a personnel matter in public when he accused someone else of violating policy. Crawford is a Lieutent and is held to certain standards which he apparently has difficulty doing. “Typical Tim”, doesn’t follow the rules.
I really don’t need your permission to post anything and I certainly don’t need your approval on my writing style. If you don’t like what I write, don’t read it.
Best Wishes!
1.I understand that this is a forum and you may not think you need to speak in a more professional manner, BUT as an average citizen, I am not going to take your posts seriously when you write like that.
2. I understand he cannot violate policies, no matter what position he is in. Apparently, they told him to take the picture down, and he cooperated. Is there any evidence that his violation of the policy was anything other than a simple mistake?
3. Again with more allegations and no evidence! You are going by the same simple political gossip syntax that you always see in tabloids,
“I found out <insert candidate> committed/violated <insert crime/policy/offense>.”
Offer some more proof about the situation instead of just giving slight hints about stuff.
4. I am really just trying to help you and the readers of this forum. If you don’t write in a manner that is more easily read, then people are going to have issues about reading it!
I’d like to address that thin skin comment now. If you go back and ACTUALLY re-read my post, everything I posted was just offering advice to you and the forum-goers to look more deeply into things. With everything in life, if you really want to find the truth you need to look at things from more than one perspective, and I was just offering another view.
Myself like the rest of the citizens of Charles County, just want to find out the truth in all this gossip around the Sheriffs candidates. This isn’t going to happen by posting small little hints about possible policy violations, this is just going to further the already out of control gossip.
This is the quote from Tim Crawford for Sheriff facebook site “Yesterday I had to make a change to the page after I received a phone call from work. I was informed that MY picture, of ME, on MY wall that is between MY family and friends, violates agency policy because I was in uniform and the words “Vote Tim in Ten” were next to it. Let’s get this straight, it is okay for Jack H. to sell Rex Coffey fund raiser tickets on duty, on agency property to on duty lieutenants (in violation of the same chapter and section)? Also this same policy exempts the sheriff to do all of this while restricting those running for the position if you work here. Sounds like double standards or should we call it “Good ole boy” politics!!! VOTE ““TIM IN TEN and end this type of unprofessionalism.”
AFCadetSteel wrote
“1.I understand that this is a forum and you may not think you need to speak in a more professional manner, BUT as an average citizen, I am not going to take your posts seriously when you write like that.”
I really don’t care if you take my post seriously or not. You are not interested in facts or evidence. What I say is not “gossip”. It is FACT.
This is the quote from Tim Crawford for Sheriff facebook site “Yesterday I had to make a change to the page after I received a phone call from work. I was informed that MY picture, of ME, on MY wall that is between MY family and friends, violates agency policy because I was in uniform and the words “Vote Tim in Ten” were next to it. Let’s get this straight, it is okay for Jack H. to sell Rex Coffey fund raiser tickets on duty, on agency property to on duty lieutenants (in violation of the same chapter and section)? Also this same policy exempts the sheriff to do all of this while restricting those running for the position if you work here. Sounds like double standards or should we call it “Good ole boy” politics!!! VOTE ““TIM IN TEN and end this type of unprofessionalism.”
AFCadetSteel wrote
“1.I understand that this is a forum and you may not think you need to speak in a more professional manner, BUT as an average citizen, I am not going to take your posts seriously when you write like that.”
I really don’t care if you take my post seriously or not. You are not interested in facts or evidence. What I say is not “gossip”. It is FACT.
I stand corrected then. Thank you for bringing that to light.
And actually, I do care about the facts, but you cannot see something as fact unless you have more evidence then some guy ranting on a forum. You have posted this evidence and I thank you.
Just wondering, have you put any thought into Lt Crawford’s speaking of this “double standard”?
If what he said is true, why is it that hey is being ‘attacked’ and the one he speaks of isn’t?
p.s. In my opinion what you say IS gossip..
Merriam Webster Definition for Gossip
1. a person who habitually reveals personal or sensational facts about others
2. rumor or report of an intimate nature
Now lets see what you have for the other allegations
I think everyone should visit Tim Crawford for Sheriff “Tim in Ten” facebook page. Read some of the things he has to say. Talk about unprofessional. “Typical Tim”. More to come in time, with the evidence to boot!
“Just wondering, have you put any thought into Lt Crawford’s speaking of this “double standard”?
If what he said is true, why is it that hey is being ‘attacked’ and the one he speaks of isn’t?’
Attacked??? Who said attacked??? How do we know the one he speaks of isn’t being dealt with? How do we know what he says is true? Now that is what I call gossip. If only one tenth of what I hear is true about Crawford, this is going to be one nasty race.
In my “process of elimination” just having read this thread - I know Tim Crawford is not on my Shortlist to vote for. As a Republican - that is frustrating for me. I guess the Democrats will determine who I vote for in November for Sherriff. Choose well and please don’t screw this up for the county.
I like Rex Coffey because he and the Commissioner’s don’t get along, but I digress on this thread for Tim.
...I checked out the facebook response Tim made concerning the profile picture….big deal. However one of his friends asked to trick out the DARE cars if Tim were elected, Tim said yes…....probaably joking, right Tim, to me an unprofessional response…he might hold you to it!
