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Posted: 26 March 2010 11:54 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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I’ve been reading the various posts here at Delusional Duck for some time, and now I feel I have to put my 2 cents in the pot when it comes to crime in our county, you may agree with what I say here, and then again you may not, but here goes.

There’s a very simple phrase I want you to ask yourself; “Do you feel safe”.

“Do you feel safe” walking in the parking lot, from or to your car, when you go to the Mall?

“Do you feel safe” when you go to certain shopping centers in your area?

“Do you feel safe” when you’re at the gas pumps filling your car with gas?

“Do you feel safe” when you see a band of teenagers walking in a group or standing around?

So if you “Feel Safe” in the above situations, or in other areas in our County then vote to keep the status quo, but if you don’t “Feel Safe”, then it’s time for a change.

So my suggestion is to vote how “YOU” feel.

Like I said, it’s just my 2 cents.

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Posted: 26 March 2010 06:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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What an interesting question.  It kind of reminds me of the question Ronald Reagan asked when he was running against Jimmy Carter.  Except he asked the more important question “Are you better off now than four years ago?”.  Here is an interesting bit of information that everyone should have before you answer that question.  As a result in the 13+% reduction in crime numbers for 2009, there was actually less crimes reported in 2009 than in 1996 right here in Charles County!  The past administration used to report “crime rates” as opposed to crime numbers.  Big difference between the way they reported crime to the media and how it is reported now.  Crime rate takes into account the increase of population and compares the percentages.  Sheriff Coffey reports the crime numbers.  There are less crimes occuring now than in 1996. (All this is available from the FBI) So with a lot more people, we actually have less crimes occuring now.  Now that is what I call progress.  Two of the four men running for Sheriff (Crawford and D. Williams) were members of the command staff of the previous administration.  So the question I have for everyone is “Can we afford to go backwards?”  Here is a picture to remind everyone where we would end up with the likes of Dave Williams as Sheriff. If you think for a moment that Dave Williams isn’t going to bring back Mike O’Toole, Dennis Burks and Tim Plumer you are being fooled.  Heck rumor has it even the Charles County Secret Service Commander John McConnell is coming back too.  Isn’t that the same crowd the citizens sent packing nearly 4 years ago.  FRED DAVIS…I mean DAVE WILLIAMS for Sheriff.  I’d take “status quo” over backwards any day of the week.

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Posted: 26 March 2010 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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By the way, what I have posted so far is nothing.  In the very near future I will be posting some very interesting information about Dave Williams with the proof (documents, photos etc.) attached for all to see.  But right now, I’m only going to take off one glove.  I’ll wait till later to put out the real bad stuff.

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Posted: 28 March 2010 01:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Mr. Jones so what did Coffey eat last night?  I thought it was just your nose up his rear but it seems to be your whole head!

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Posted: 28 March 2010 04:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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Wow. The first shot was fired!

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Posted: 29 March 2010 06:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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worker - 28 March 2010 01:15 PM

Mr. Jones so what did Coffey eat last night?  I thought it was just your nose up his rear but it seems to be your whole head!

I think that was uncalled for.  Just cause he supports Coffey don’t mean you should attack him.  If you got something to say about Coffey, say it.  He has the right to post his opinions and facts here and he hasn’t attacked you unless you are Williams or Eley.

I kind of liked Mr. Jones’s post.  It really made me think about all the hard work we all have put into reducing the crime in Chuck County the last couple of years.  When Williams supporters make statements like the one Jones was rsponding to, it makes me wonder jsut what crap Williams is saying about the troops.

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Posted: 29 March 2010 08:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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As a result in the 13+% reduction in crime numbers for 2009, there was actually less crimes reported in 2009 than in 1996 right here in Charles County!  The past administration used to report “crime rates” as opposed to crime numbers.  Big difference between the way they reported crime to the media and how it is reported now.  Crime rate takes into account the increase of population and compares the percentages.  Sheriff Coffey reports the crime numbers.  There are less crimes occuring now than in 1996

Good post, Bill Jones.  Crime numbers mean more to me than crime rates (I don’t care about how much the population has increased vs crime percentages; I only care about how much actual crime is being committed).  Rex Coffey tells it as it is, and he’s not afraid to go to bat for his employees.  We should expect that from ALL elected officials.

I will vote for Sheriff Coffey again.  I see no reason not to.

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Posted: 29 March 2010 01:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I’m amazed crime has gone down with all this increased population.  I would not fault (Rex) him for increases since we live so close to the urban mecca up the road and our home grown bums.  Just keep the crime under control and reduce, close cases as quick as you can.  Keep hiring top notch personnel. Lock up the criminals.  Make the area aware that CC is serious about preventing crimes and catching criminals who committ crimes.  I think the Sheriff’s Department is one thing our fellow counties do not laugh about since we have given them so much to laugh about in the way the County has overgrown, over built, inept Leadership from the Commissioner’s and the presence of whiney cry babies who cry everytime the Sheriff’s Department does their job by arresting a hard working, god fearing, nice guys, family provider drug-thugs!
I’m for anyone who makes the thugs constantly look over their shoulders and so far I beleive this is happening so why change for sake of changing.  If Rex decides to go soft throw him out and try to get Joe Arappo from Arizona, that will make the weenies scream!

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Posted: 29 March 2010 06:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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Worker,
Since Sheriff Coffey eats, sleeps and drinks crime fighting, I suppose he chewed up some scum bag and shit him out.  And look, you are already posting. Damn court system!

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Posted: 20 April 2010 04:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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I personally like Sheriff Coffey and think he is doing a great job.  However, anyone who has ever worked with numbers understands the adage, “Liars figure, and figures lie.”  My statement is not an indictment of his numbers or accusation that he is playing fast and loose with the stats, I simply want to make the observation that a capable stats guru can decide how and what numbers are collected, categorized and classified, and then devise a report that puts the best possible spin on outcomes.  In fact, with enough time, I’ll bet some creative bean counter could statistically demonstrate that neither the current or previous CCSO administrations had any actual impact on crime, positive or negative.  Don’t vote the numbers, trust your instinct and vote your gut.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 04:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Bill Jones - 29 March 2010 06:22 PM

Worker,
Since Sheriff Coffey eats, sleeps and drinks crime fighting, I suppose he chewed up some scum bag and shit him out.  And look, you are already posting. Damn court system!

You have got to be kidding me.  This post has ‘fail’ written all over it.  Honestly, I could spend twenty minutes breaking this down but it simply isn’t worth the time, because someone making a post like this wouldn’t get it anyway.  Just wow.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Four months after it was posted, that’s the best you can do? Face it, The Coffey Machine is in full force. He just got the endorsement of the FOP, which represents Active and Retired members. Neither Williams candidate has a platform. The commissioners continue to cut Coffey’s budget, yet there are more police on the street and crime is down. Do the math.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Maria - 26 July 2010 04:36 PM

Four months after it was posted, that’s the best you can do? Face it, The Coffey Machine is in full force. He just got the endorsement of the FOP, which represents Active and Retired members. Neither Williams candidate has a platform. The commissioners continue to cut Coffey’s budget, yet there are more police on the street and crime is down. Do the math.

You act like the people care about what the FOP says. Its not uncommon for the endorsement to mean nothing in the election. For example, in 2006 in Calvert county, the FOP voted to endorse (well publicized) Joey McKenny for Sheriff.  As we all know, Evans won the election.

Not receiving the FOP endorsement is hardly a kiss of death for any candidate.

Dave Williams’ platform seems pretty clear to me, restore the integrity of the command of the CCSO.  Its hard to have a respectful agency when there are two high ranking command officials that soiled the uniform of the CCSO.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 05:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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Maria - 26 July 2010 04:36 PM

The commissioners continue to cut Coffey’s budget, yet there are more police on the street and crime is down. Do the math.

Something I definitely thought was interesting while looking at Dave Williams’ facebook.

Dave Williams

CrimeReports.com is where the Charles County Sheriff’s Office web site directs citizens to get up to date information on crimes occurring in Charles County. Does anyone believe that there is been NO auto thefts in Charles County in the last 6 months? I didn’t either!


Dennis Burks

Congratulations to Sheriff Coffey for having NO Auto Thefts this year. The Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus are believable, why not believe Sheriff Coffey’s crime statistics? Restore integrity, VOTE FOR DAVE WILLIAMS FOR SHERIFF!

http://www.crimereports.com/map/index/?search=+La Plata+MD&agencyzoomlevel;=

Does seem interesting, doesn’t it?

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Posted: 26 July 2010 05:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Well if the FOP endorsement was so unimportant, why did Williams work so hard to try and get it??? I think it speaks volumes when a leader of a large organization has the support of the men and women he /she leads. And, the last time I checked, Coffey never used his 12 year old daughter as a complainant in an internal investigation against an FOP Vice President.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 06:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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Maria - 26 July 2010 05:33 PM

Well if the FOP endorsement was so unimportant, why did Williams work so hard to try and get it??? I think it speaks volumes when a leader of a large organization has the support of the men and women he /she leads. And, the last time I checked, Coffey never used his 12 year old daughter as a complainant in an internal investigation against an FOP Vice President.


I’m not familiar with that case, so I really can’t comment.  Can you fill me in on the facts and documentation?

You need to look at the reality of it.  Will it matter when it comes to the votes what the FOP says?  Its hard to say. History tells us that the FOP endorsement really does not mean much to voters.

He tried hard to get the endorsement, because he is running to make the CCSO a better place.  He is running to make our work environment better then it currently is. Who wouldn’t want their blessing?

As far as support, don’t be so sure about that. There are a lot of sworn officers, and even more correctional officers that support Williams.

Inside the jail, between command staff, down to the officers working the floor, I know of only a handful of officers that support Coffey in his re-election bid.

The FOP only represents sworn officers, rank of sergeant and below, its only a portion of the sheriff’s office.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 06:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]  
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The FOP only represents sworn officers, rank of sergeant and below, its only a portion of the sheriff’s office.

Wrong, gets your facts straight before you post something. While the FOP’s bargaining arm represents sworn Sgts and below, the entire FOP membership Active and Retired, were allowed to vote in the endorsement process. Also, if so few people are supporting Coffey at the CCSO, how did he get that endorsement?? The vote was secret and no ballots were marked. Again, if the FOP endorsement was so silly maybe he should have stayed at home and saved himself the embarassment. He (Williams) apparently does not have the support you think he does, or the people you are talking to are full of it.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 06:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]  
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Maria - 26 July 2010 06:22 PM

The FOP only represents sworn officers, rank of sergeant and below, its only a portion of the sheriff’s office.

Wrong, gets your facts straight before you post something. While the FOP’s bargaining arm represents sworn Sgts and below, the entire FOP membership Active and Retired, were allowed to vote in the endorsement process. Also, if so few people are supporting Coffey at the CCSO, how did he get that endorsement?? The vote was secret and no ballots were marked. Again, if the FOP endorsement was so silly maybe he should have stayed at home and saved himself the embarassment. He (Williams) apparently does not have the support you think he does, or the people you are talking to are full of it.


Yes, now we are getting to the core of the issue. I’m fully, and completely aware of the FOP’s endorsement process, lets do some deeper thinking on the subject.

The primary function of the FOP is to represent the officers ranks sergeant and below for collective bargaining. This is the primary function of the FOP, and the largest part of its membership (Stay with me).  Its also important to remember, there are certain persons in the FOP, that are hard core Coffey supporters, and they are in positions of influence. Collective bargaining for the FOP is next year.  So far with this admin, they have been successful on more then a few fronts, and they have received things that would have never happened under Davis, BDUs, external vest carriers, and the current hat policy to name a few.

  These persons of influence helped sway the vote, and reminding people, collective bargaining was only a year away, and “look at what we have already gained”.  “The devil I know is better then the Devil I don’t know.”  There were a few motivations for the FOP to vote like they did, but don’t believe for a second it was a landslide vote.

As far as the “silly comment” I believe I already addressed that.  No need to beat a dead horse.

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Posted: 26 July 2010 06:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]  
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Yes, that’s it. A conspiracy by the FOP leadership. Maybe they stuffed the ballot box while they were at it. Or, (stay with me) the men and women of the CCSO think Coffey’s doing a good job. You’re are correct on a few points; the officers have received some perks since Coffey took over. A new District Station that is not infested with mold and human waste, new uniform policies, a new patrol schedule, training opportunities, more personal days, a sheriff that actually shows up at the stations, fully equipped cruisers (computers, video cameras, etc), and a new mentality that has not been seen in years. So, why wouldn’t they support him? Coffey has shown he cares about his employees and listens to them. He has changed policies which he knew would make officers happy; a happy worker is a productive worker. Again, just one woman’s opinion.

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Maria - 26 July 2010 06:51 PM

Yes, that’s it. A conspiracy by the FOP leadership. Maybe they stuffed the ballot box while they were at it. Or, (stay with me) the men and women of the CCSO think Coffey’s doing a good job. You’re are correct on a few points; the officers have received some perks since Coffey took over. A new District Station that is not infested with mold and human waste, new uniform policies, a new patrol schedule, training opportunities, more personal days, a sheriff that actually shows up at the stations, fully equipped cruisers (computers, video cameras, etc), and a new mentality that has not been seen in years. So, why wouldn’t they support him? Coffey has shown he cares about his employees and listens to them. He has changed policies which he knew would make officers happy; a happy worker is a productive worker. Again, just one woman’s opinion.

Yes, they have received all those things, which is great for the agency as a whole, and the county.  The FOP had more to consider then simply the leadership of the CCSO during their endorsement, they want more goodies.  I can’t blame them at all for that, they are simply looking out for themselves.

But its important to remember they aren’t representative of the whole agency. I would be very curious to know how close the vote actually was.

The sarcasm isn’t really funny, when its factual.

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Posted: 27 July 2010 07:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]  
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If you are indeed a member of the Charles County Correctional Officers - SHAME ON YOU - You would be the first person to call the FOP when your sorry butt got in trouble and you have the low life nerve to disrespect the men and women of the FOP here on this open forum - You are a disgrace to the hard working men and women of the CCSO - No need to respond to me or anyone else it is so very clear that people like you are the backwash in the drink of life -
FACTS ARE HARD TO DISPUTE:

CRIME RATES ARE DOWN
BUDGET IS BALANCED EVEN WITH A LARGE CUT BY COUNTY GOVERNMENT
MORALE IS AT A HIGH LEVEL (HENCE THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE FOP)
THERE ARE MORE COPS ON THE STREET
REX COFFEY HAS DONE A SUPERB JOB AS SHERIFF
MAJOR GIBSON HAS DONE A SUPERB JOB WITH THE BUDGET

Dave Williams can not argue the facts because they are all against him so he argues personal attacks - a new level of low life -
Citizens beware A MAN THAT WANTS TO BE YOUR SHERIFF ATTACKS THE VERY MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT - all for his own political gain - So to answer the question do you feel safe ?  YES WE DO!!!!

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Posted: 27 July 2010 07:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]  
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Can you believe that Dave Williams is now adding signs to his roadside signs that say “Do you feel safe?”.  What a slap in the face of the men and women of the Sheriff’s Office.  Before the FOP endorsement he praised the Department for the huge crime reduction and all the hard work of the men and women.  Now he is trashing the same men and women he wants to lead.  Who the hell is giving this man political advise?  It is that crew that calls themselves the 1130 club.  You know, all the guys who up and abandoned the Department days before Coffey was sworn in. 

The motivation behind the entire Williams campaign is nothing but HATE.  So so sad.

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Posted: 16 October 2010 10:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]  
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Dear Mr. Williams,

You lost.  Nobody in Newburg or on the Cobb Neck Penninsula is planning to vote for you in the General Election.  You can take your signs down now.

thank you.

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Posted: 17 October 2010 08:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]  
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You are wasting your breath on Mr. Williams. He’s a sore loser.

I believe most of his signs are being re-faced with Tim Crawford signs. I guess it’s a last-ditch effort by the old Fred Davis crew to screw the people running the sheriffs department now.

Perhaps your complaints about Mr. Williams signs would best be forwarded to Mr. Crawford, Mr. Williams successor.

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Posted: 20 October 2010 08:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]  
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Yes I feel very “SAFE” every morning on the way to work when I see all the police cars parked at the fast food and coffee spots.  It’s just great to know the taxpayers pay for thier time to have breakfast, lunch and dinner while on duty.  I hope the new Sheriff will make the right changes.

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Posted: 20 October 2010 09:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]  
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when I see all the police cars parked at the fast food and coffee spots.

JoanB…ever see the movie Groundhog’s Day?  rolleyes

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