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Just who are these health care protesters?

WTOP, by ERICA WERNER

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Many of those raising their voices and fists at the town halls have never been politically active. Their frustration was born earlier this year with government bailouts and big spending bills, then found an outlet in the anti-tax Tea Parties in April and has simmered in the punishing recession.
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The protesters have several concerns, but a unifying emotion is distrust of the government and federal intrusion into individual liberties or personal choices.

The emerging protest movement is almost the mirror image of the grass-roots campaign that helped sweep Obama into office by pulling in people who’d never been politically active. This time Obama is seeing the other side of what can happen when people are motivated, connect over the Internet and seemingly reach a tipping point that turns them from onlookers into activists.

Posted by: Sammy on 08/13/09 at 01:24 PM

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1. · i personally tend to think these protesters are a combination of two groups: (1) those paid by the healthcare lobby to disrupt, and (2) those who are still reeling from the fact that a brown person is now our president.

it doesn't matter if the Reds or the Blues are in power. both engage in unnecessary scare tactics. it's in their best interest to create crisis after crisis which must be tended to now for the love of ghod, lest we all perish!.

then when people don't get as frightened as we are supposed to---when we don't act like good little sheep---what veneer do they paint the problem with? The Children, of course.

the GOP did the same thing when they were in power. they peppered their Town Hall meetings with their hand-picked sheep to keep the facade that everything is copasetic. remember the catch phrase: ``You're either with us, or against us''? the also called them Evil Traitors, as i recall.

the Dems i think welcome the apparent chaos. it allows them to play the victim here.

point is: this is politics. this is how things work. same game that's always been played. same game that always will be played. the players and the uniforms change from time to time, but this is de rigueur.

personally, i'd like a more careful, measured approach to the healthcare problem. there is little doubt this is a problem, but not a crisis that needs to be solved absolutely right now.

Camile Paglia has some great thoughts on this:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/08/12/town_halls/

Comment by xcitor on 08/13/09 at 02:33 PM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
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i personally tend to think these protesters are a combination of two groups: (1) those paid by the healthcare lobby to disrupt, and (2) those who are still reeling from the fact that a brown person is now our president.
I personally think that this is a load of crap.

Comment by Birdman on 08/13/09 at 06:45 PM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
3. · I still haven't heard these protesters state what they want regarding a better health care system than what is available now even though the vast majority of America has been pressing for some relief from the injustices of the private health care system for decades that is bleeding all of us dry. If the protestors are just those who work for a company that is paying for their health care insurance then I would remind them that they could be out of a job and out of a paid medical insurance plan in a New York minute and faced with either not being able to get private health care insurance or paying through the nose for it providing that no one in their family has a pre-condition.

Comment by Iamangttia on 08/13/09 at 08:21 PM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
4. ·
i personally tend to think these protesters are a combination of two groups: (1) those paid by the healthcare lobby to disrupt, and (2) those who are still reeling from the fact that a brown person is now our president.

I personally think that this is a load of crap.

allrighty, then thanks for your insight...

i know the latter group exists, i have talked to them. i wouldn't call them ``friends'', but these are people i know and interact with on a regular basis in my life.

as for the former group, i do know that there is something like $400 bn dollars at stake for the private insurance industry. that's quite a lot of money, they have a lot to lose, i'd have to think they'd stop at nothing to protect it.

this is an opinion-oriented forum, so i'd expect a bit of editorial license is allowed. i am not an award-winning reporter doing independent research, i'm not passing off what i say as fact. take it for what it is.

as much as anything, i am here to learn. a bit more interaction, and maybe we can all learn from each other...

Comment by xcitor on 08/13/09 at 09:10 PM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
5. · I have been following both sides & listening to all the arguments.

This is America! We seldom see few of our residents get worked up & mad enough to attend any of our county meetings. However, more people will attend any kind of money when it hits their pocketbook.

Same is true with healthcare.
They are scared & frustrated.

We bail out companies and then see the companies take the jobs overseas. How is that even trustworthy is beyond me.
Do I believe all the scare tactics, no but same thing happens in a election year.
The crowds are stacked with supporters of this candidate or that.
To have Steny Hoyer attack those he he disgrees with is mind blowing.

Most town meetings have time limits- you flat out have to so that everyone has a chance to speak.

I wish somebody would go over to England and hold meetings over there (more than one) and ask them what they really think of their system.

Maybe then we could get some idea of what we are in for.

I would like to know what will happen with the elderly & disabled.

The claim we can keep our own ins is great but what will it cost us? Can I afford it?

I think we need reasonable discussions.

If we can have beer summits we cab have health care summits as adults.

Comment by Diane Edge, (AKA gizmo123) on 08/13/09 at 09:16 PM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
6. · @ Iamangttia in re #3:

you haven't heard anything from the protesters, because they probably don't even know why they're protesting! college students will protest almost anything for a buck.

like i said, i don't believe this is the crisis the dems would have us believe. healthcare is broken. there's no doubt. i'm not an expert, but from where i stand medicare for all seems like a fair goal. the problem is that it's not palatable at, what 18% of GDP as a cost from what i've read? not i didn't say ``not possible'', i said not palatable.

it most certainly is possible. this country doesn't want for money, just common sense approaches to programs.

Comment by xcitor on 08/13/09 at 09:18 PM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
7. · They are AMERICANS exercising their 1st Amendment rights!

They are Democrats, Republicans and Independents.

They are young, old and middle aged.

They are healthy and disabled.

They are people who see the direction the country is headed and they don't like what they see.

They don't want BIG Government and they don't want government intrusion in their lives.

They are happy with their current health care and insurance and want to keep it - the government would not only be a participant in the competition but would also be setting the rules for the competition.

With the government plan, taxpayers would presumably absorb all of the risks, losses, and liabilities of such an enterprise, while private health plans would absorb their own risks, losses, and liabilities.

When evaluating the "fairness" of any national health insurance exchange, a key issue is whether the government's rules--particularly for benefits, financing, and solvency--apply equally to the government plan and the private plans that are supposed to compete with it.

If they do not, the proposed "competition," presumably with the government plan having special advantages, is a meaningless charade.

If the rules are the same for all plans, then logically there is no point to having a government health plan at all.

Comment by cheryl on 08/14/09 at 06:22 AM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]
8. · They are communities that are similiar in nature that Obama himself was part of ..except his claim to fame was he was an organizer..
him guess that makes him a target for Hoyer & loud mouth Nancy

Comment by Diane Edge, (AKA gizmo123) on 08/14/09 at 08:58 AM | [Back to Top] | [Back to Main]

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